Make Pavilion cup optional

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Re: Make Pavilion cup optional

Postby Stuart7 » Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:43 am

That’s great, and you never cease to amaze me with
your wonderful replies. But what if you only have 12
senior players? And a very average Youth team? It’s
one match, not a lot of prize money and you may get
through to round two. Then you play round two. Woo you get through
but your team are now so tired they couldn’t beat
the under 12 local netball team. So you get knocked out in
round 3 because you play mostly youths who are 16 or 17.
In my opinion, playing Youths devalues the Cup and is
disrespectful of your opponents. If you have a massive squad
of Seniors then you are going to go a long way in the Cup
because of squad management. If you get to round 3 or 4
with a small squad all you end up with is 12 or 13 seniors who
will be tired for a couple of weeks or more after you have been
knocked out which has a good chance of ruining your chances in
the leagues.
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Re: Make Pavilion cup optional

Postby PowerBug » Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:36 am

You are the manager of your team. If you have 12 Senior players, then the best thing you for the sake of your team, is to throw your PC match in Round 1 by playing your youths. Making PC optional would de-value the Cup by more than what it does by the few managers that play their youth sides.

Your opponents will be happy that they get a free ride into the next round, they won't be annoyed that their Round 1 opponent is playing their youths (Unless you play on a Flat pitch and win the toss and bowl, don't do that, bat first and them them save on fatigue if you are throwing the game)
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Re: Make Pavilion cup optional

Postby Smiddie » Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:52 am

Stuart7 wrote:That’s great, and you never cease to amaze me with
your wonderful replies. But what if you only have 12
senior players? And a very average Youth team? It’s
one match, not a lot of prize money and you may get
through to round two. Then you play round two. Woo you get through
but your team are now so tired they couldn’t beat
the under 12 local netball team. So you get knocked out in
round 3 because you play mostly youths who are 16 or 17.
In my opinion, playing Youths devalues the Cup and is
disrespectful of your opponents. If you have a massive squad
of Seniors then you are going to go a long way in the Cup
because of squad management. If you get to round 3 or 4
with a small squad all you end up with is 12 or 13 seniors who
will be tired for a couple of weeks or more after you have been
knocked out which has a good chance of ruining your chances in
the leagues.



Then by all means play your youths lose rd 1 and just continue to play your leagues as normal.
If your youths win rd 1 then play them again until they lose.
Sorry if my responses are not to your likings.

You still get the gates from playing and its like free money.

Your not forced to play your seniors, you make the management decision to play your seniors because you want to win couple of rds.

Some teams have a 18-20man senior squad with a slread of oldies, nationals, and young players. And they play young for experience (another good thing for being in the PC, you get free experience.)

You cant make the cup optional, and you cant reset fatigue thats not right.
You do have the option however to play your youths good or bad doesnt matter. Just through your PC match take the money and run.
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Re: Make Pavilion cup optional

Postby Stuart7 » Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:13 pm

I like reading your replies. There was no offence meant by
that comment. My reasoning is that opt out of the cup,
don’t have fatigue. Opt in to the cup, have fatigue. Surely
the reason to be invited to play in the cup is the fact that the manager
has a half decent senior team so I can’t see the point
in playing Youths. Anyway, as I said, I value your
opinion and take your point of view on board. However,
there does need to be some changes to the format of
the cup for it to mean something. That’s is my opinion.
Thank you for reading
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Re: Make Pavilion cup optional

Postby Smiddie » Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:45 pm

Stuart7 wrote:I like reading your replies. There was no offence meant by
that comment. My reasoning is that opt out of the cup,
don’t have fatigue. Opt in to the cup, have fatigue. Surely
the reason to be invited to play in the cup is the fact that the manager
has a half decent senior team so I can’t see the point
in playing Youths. Anyway, as I said, I value your
opinion and take your point of view on board. However,
there does need to be some changes to the format of
the cup for it to mean something. That’s is my opinion.
Thank you for reading


The first 2 rds are IMO just there to give some teams some experience and money.
Those who have a decent team will go past rd 3 and those who dont wont the fatigue tend to exit by rd 3 or sooner depending on the skze of the comp
But the fun normally starts at rd 5 for most. Its just how the comp is and IMO alot of comps are in RL.
The underdawg story is always fun or just abit of fun/experience for the weaker teams to play against the bigger boys. But if you dont have the squad size to manage it you decide to either through the sod match or pc match. I think the decision is good to have.
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