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CactusMan
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Re: League Chat

Post by CactusMan » Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:37 pm

Dam, I don't think I've seen Div 1's in NZ this strong. I'm having to stock up on 28-31yo's in order to just be semi competitive :cry:

Like, thought I had a chance at sticking round...
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Post by kaetor » Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:04 am

It's by far my strongest team I've ever had! Though I've been on holiday for the last 4 weeks so not managing the team pretty much at all. Realised my t20 squad didn't have a bowler set for the last few weeks after I sold a player to keep out of debt :oops:
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Re: League Chat

Post by kaetor » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:10 pm

Our div 1 is now the number 1 div in FTP! Who's the #1 team in NZ? I'm now second after the rankings update, despite being 6th in the world

Edit: Ah it's the Bogans, if FTP stays around NZ should be a very competitive place for the next few seasons
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Re: League Chat

Post by GA-Jim » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:09 pm

kaetor wrote:Our div 1 is now the number 1 div in FTP! Who's the #1 team in NZ? I'm now second after the rankings update, despite being 6th in the world

Edit: Ah it's the Bogans, if FTP stays around NZ should be a very competitive place for the next few seasons
And that with me in it semi re building lol. NZs always had the most consistent and hard D1. I remember a few season ago 240k teams were getting relegated. Always competitive!
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Re: League Chat

Post by Muff » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:38 am

I'm on track for my first title since season 22, which included re building from a hiatus from the game

I'm a win and NRR ahead of second in YOD 1.1 with only a matchup vs Kato to worry about while the 2 highest rated teams still need to face each other.

That should breakup starris' strangle hold on the YOD league
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Re: League Chat

Post by Muff » Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:25 am

Muff wrote:I'm on track for my first title since season 22, which included re building from a hiatus from the game

I'm a win and NRR ahead of second in YOD 1.1 with only a matchup vs Kato to worry about while the 2 highest rated teams still need to face each other.

That should breakup starris' strangle hold on the YOD league
Well I choked, in the final 2 rounds, congrats Starr is impressive comeback :clap
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Re: League Chat

Post by starris » Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:10 am

Muff wrote:
Muff wrote:I'm on track for my first title since season 22, which included re building from a hiatus from the game

I'm a win and NRR ahead of second in YOD 1.1 with only a matchup vs Kato to worry about while the 2 highest rated teams still need to face each other.

That should breakup starris' strangle hold on the YOD league
Well I choked, in the final 2 rounds, congrats Starr is impressive comeback :clap
I don't know how I pulled that one off... given I lost to you twice - well done by the way!
Guess I owe Kato a beer given he did what I couldn't!
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Re: League Chat

Post by CactusMan » Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:53 pm

My lot are back in Div 2 where they belong lol. It's nice and comfy down there.

Been thinking about rebuilding for a while. Firing all my seniors, saving my money for a few seasons, investing in some good 16yo's. Anyone done this before who has some good advice for not letting the team fall off the face of a cliff while rebuilding?
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Re: League Chat

Post by blain » Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:25 am

I'm farming for the first time ever this season CactusMan. Long time coming. I'm going all out, so not sure on how to balance a slow re build. If you're going to fire all your seniors, you'll be falling off that cliff for sure :lol:

I've upped/downed my academies, sold my 30-32yo squad off and purchased about 5 decent youths to kick me off. Have a couple good YP's too, and got about $2mill in the bank. Gonna be a slow few seasons, going to try get about $10 million and a strong youth squad and build them into div 1. Will probably take a couples years, but a bit of fun.

I've done a re build of 20yo's before, that's the easiest and fastest way to re build without falling too far. I think you just have to commit to youths, or go down the 20yo road. No point going half arsed, it's too expensive to build with mid 20yo's.
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Re: League Chat

Post by CactusMan » Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:50 pm

Cheers Blain, yea fair point.

I think I have a senior squad who I can potentially finish top 2-3 in div 2 with, so I might just sell off the older players and try see how it goes with the mid 20’s players in the squad... Invest a bit more in the youth academy and go from there. If that doesn’t work then there will be a bit of a fire sale at the end of the season. 😂
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Re: League Chat

Post by DocVanNostrand » Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:03 pm

@Cactus

A while back I sold off most of my starting lineup, because I had a monster group of players coming up. I was left with six 20yos (five of which I trained up from 16) and two 21yos (trained up from 17). I think the rest of the 4-5 other players were in their mid 20s, which helped to stabilize the squad. I was still in 1.1 in both senior leagues when I had the big sale. Obviously, I relegated the following season, but having that season in 1.1 (where I got my head bashed in on a weekly basis) was important for building experience and getting skills a bit higher. It made for a soft landing when I went down to Div2 and I was immediately competitive there. I only spent two seasons in Div2 before promoting back to 1.1, with a squad made up of primarily 23/24yos.

While this perhaps doesn’t directly address the question you were asking, I think one key lesson I learned is that if you start your rebuild when you’re kind of on top, it makes it easier to remain competitive through the transition (after that first rough year). You won’t fall as far and depending on what you’re able to reload with, you’ll bounce back up faster.
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Re: League Chat

Post by kaetor » Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:11 pm

I think a gradual rebuild from early 20s players works pretty well. Building an engine is probably more important than piling up a ton of gun players. Have a steady player rotation of bringing in new guys and retiring the older ones.

I'm hesitant to do it from 16 y/o's now, investing in double academies is rough and 14 seasons is a huge commitment.

My squad is in a similar position at the moment, old and broken. And myself, I'm just broke!
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Re: League Chat

Post by Muff » Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:54 am

CactusMan wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:53 pm
My lot are back in Div 2 where they belong lol. It's nice and comfy down there.

Been thinking about rebuilding for a while. Firing all my seniors, saving my money for a few seasons, investing in some good 16yo's. Anyone done this before who has some good advice for not letting the team fall off the face of a cliff while rebuilding?
I’m enjoying the full rebuild, I took a few seasons hiatus. But it’s actually a lot of fun once you get through the difficult first season, buying the dirt cheap players to stabilise yourself in a division then build from the youth set up. You could probably just start the youth build now an use the experience of higher divisions as you demote, but try to stay in div 3 if you can.

I’m happy with being in div 3 seniors and div 1 yod. I’ve currently had my second crop promote to the seniors this season so in maybe another 2 seasons they should be competitive enough to target a promotion to div 2.

Still got 7.5mil in the bank so going to be comfortable, but I’m offloading some more of my seniors to make sure the wage bill doesn’t blow out too quickly unnecessarily.
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Re: League Chat

Post by CactusMan » Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:03 am

Yea, lots of good points there, cheers fellas.

Think I’m going to give my lot another season in this div then reassess after that. Probable get my seniors to a point where I can get max value out of them too.
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Re: League Chat

Post by blain » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:24 pm

I remember the first 4 or 5 years in the game I invested in youth and senior academies, but could never get my seniors to a good enough level for div 1, but my youth squad was div 1/2. Because I was investing in both, I had to balance the $$, so my players didn't get to as good levels as they probably could. I think enjoyed that more, due to getting guys into U19, then into your seniors all the way up etc.

But I had about 5 seasons where I literally had no decent pulls, so got out of double investing and concentrated on seniors. Then my senior wage bills went up.. And 10 seasons later I'm starting from the bottom! Won a couple of div 1 titles which is nice I guess.

When I'm done farming I'd love to get back to double investing, maybe both around the good/excellent level. I guess if you have good mix of ages through your senior squad, your wages should keep down a bit; Something like 2 of every age from 20-30. Takes good planning.
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