The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

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Brunel37
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by Brunel37 » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:55 am

Hi all,

Saeed Das Bangladesh
24 years old | 54,795 rating | $12,314 wage | Right hand batsman | Right arm Medium | New Ball Bowler, Seam Specialist

accomplished experience | average form | rested fatigue | reasonable captaincy

Endurance expert
Batting poor
Bowling exceptional
Technique spectacular
Keeping ordinary
Power average
Fielding spectacular

This guy popped to exceptional bowling today. At 24 (and with a superior academy) how long would it take him to reach world class? Is it worth it or do you think I should start training power from now?

If so, how long do you train power for and to what level? Then what do you train afterwards?
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by Turbz » Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:23 am

Brunel37 wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:55 am
Hi all,

Saeed Das Bangladesh
24 years old | 54,795 rating | $12,314 wage | Right hand batsman | Right arm Medium | New Ball Bowler, Seam Specialist

accomplished experience | average form | rested fatigue | reasonable captaincy

Endurance expert
Batting poor
Bowling exceptional
Technique spectacular
Keeping ordinary
Power average
Fielding spectacular

This guy popped to exceptional bowling today. At 24 (and with a superior academy) how long would it take him to reach world class? Is it worth it or do you think I should start training power from now?

If so, how long do you train power for and to what level? Then what do you train afterwards?
Nice player, one of the best upcoming mediums for Bangladesh.
It takes considerable time to reach world class, well over 2 full seasons, probably closer to 3 seasons.

I would start to train power, aim for 2 pops a season while also training bowling/bowling-tech. That would get to excep power at 28.

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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by TheWizard » Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:40 pm

kchitiz wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:17 pm
Hello guys Can anyone explain me how you train the endurance balanced to the primary batting/bowling, technique and fielding. I know Primary training and fielding training trains endurance too but I have many players with endurance low. Is endurance really importance from youth? How do you train the endurance from when and which age mostly?
Also can anyone help with training the All Rounder and Wicket Keeper ? How do you start at what skill you guy go for fielding, technique and endurance training ?
Thank you so much
I normally don't train endurance/fitness that often until a player turns 27/28 and there's not much left to do with them. If you have a youth player with low endurance (poor or lower) than a couple of weeks on fitness isn't a bad idea. Once your players starts moving onto strength training then their endurance will move up at a decent rate.

For wicket-keepers I'd try and train keeper-batsmen as much as possible, but I'd switch to fielding to make sure it's within two levels of the keeping skill, and if technique falls behind then some time on batting technique.

For all-rounders, you still want to make sure fielding is at a good level, so I'd train it until at least reasonable. Then after that, you can rotate between Bowling/Bowling Tech and AR training depending on how high you want the batting to be. I'd regularly go back to fielding so it reaches at least outstanding by the time a player turns 23.
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by TheWizard » Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:31 pm

Yeah it's important. Ideally it would be at least average by the time a player turns 20, ordinary minimum.

In most cases though, it shouldn't need too much training.
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by Brunel37 » Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:04 am

Hi all,

My young batsmen just popped in endurance this week. He is currently training Batting but I was just wondering what people would do with him longer term?

Will he did fielding training still? If so when?
When should I start training power? Should this be when he reaches a certain age or when he hits a certain batting level?

Vinay Srivastav Bangladesh
22 years old | 51,456 rating | $7,376 wage | Right hand batsman | Right arm Finger spin | Gifted (Technique), Skilled (Power)

Endurance accomplished
Batting outstanding
Bowling average
Technique spectacular
Power average
Fielding outstanding
Keeping poor
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by TheWizard » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:33 pm

I'd go for another fielding pop right now.

After fielding pops then onto batting for a while. For strength training, most people seem to start when the player turns 25. I normally would go a bit earlier, maybe 7/8 weeks before EOS.
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by Tdk1023 » Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:41 pm

PickeringXI wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:17 am
Well this is an interesting one

16 years | 24,072 rating | $883 wage (5% discount)
Right hand batsman | Left arm Finger spin
Talents Gifted (Technique), Boundary Hitter
Nationality Canada Canada
Form reasonable
Fatigue rested
Experience poor
Captaincy reliable
Skills Summary
Batsman ordinary
Bowler ordinary
Keeper ordinary
Allrounder ordinary
Skills
Batting poor Endurance ordinary
Bowling average Technique average
Keeping average Power poor
Fielding poor
Don't think there's a wrong choice with this player - assuming you don't go pure bat! It's about what your club needs. The LFS would make me go semi AR (good number 8), but he'd make a fine keeper too if you are overflowing with spinners.
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