The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

[GA-James018]

It depends on personal preference. Power is at its peak training speed from ages 23 to 27 before starting to slow down again, while batting, bowling, fielding, keeping and technique continually train more slowly with each year. So, technically, holding off on training power until mid-to-late 20s will give your player higher skills in the long run, but at the cost of worse performance in the short-term.

Realistically, most people try and find a balance. Some people will train power for 1 or 2 pops per season in a player's early-to-mid 20s, and then switch back to batting/bowling/etc. training for the rest of the season. Others just pick an age or right time to switch to power training full-time, perhaps around 24ish. Again, it's up to you to decide, there isn't necessarily a right answer suited to everyone.

[lankyitfc]

Hi all- I just pulled this player. At a bit of a loss on how to train!! Any suggestions welcome.

16y0w | 25,024 rating | $1,086 wage (5% discount)

Right hand batsman | Right arm Finger spin

Talents Arm Ball
Nationality Scotland Scotland
Form reasonable
Fatigue rested
Experience dreadful
Captaincy capable
Skills Summary
Batsman ordinary
Bowler ordinary
Keeper ordinary
Allrounder ordinary
Notes

Skills
Batting average Endurance poor
Bowling ordinary Technique average
Keeping average Power poor
Fielding ordinary

[casperj]

Hi all- I just pulled this player. At a bit of a loss on how to train!! Any suggestions welcome.

16y0w | 25,024 rating | $1,086 wage (5% discount)

Right hand batsman | Right arm Finger spin
Talents Arm Ball

Skills
Batting average Endurance poor
Bowling ordinary Technique average
Keeping average Power poor
Fielding ordinary

Bit of a difficult one given the talent vs the skill spread. Choices are really either Keeper or Bowler. Probably which you choose would depend on which your youth team needs more - is he going to get game time as a keeper, if not then train as a spinner.

[Jujoh]

The Nigiro >> 12. Bradyn Tuttle >> Details
Player Info
19y8w | 39.846 rating | $ 2.758 wage (0% discount)

Right hand batsman | Left arm Finger spin

Talents Skilled (Keeping), Safe Hands
Nationality Canada Canada
Form reasonable
Fatigue revived
Experience ordinary
Captaincy reliable
Skills Summary
Batsman capable
Bowler poor
Keeper reliable
Allrounder ordinary
Notes

Skills
Batting reliable Endurance average
Bowling poor Technique reliable
Keeping accomplished Power ordinary
Fielding reasonable

Popped to reliable batting today, technique 4 weeks ago. Been on batting training, but now I'm in doubt over keeper-batsman or focus on batting . Probably give him one fielding pop somewhere too. W

[GM-crowfan65]

Def a quick top up on fielding and then batting
Where possible i try to keep bat = keep and fielding within 2 of keep

[Kushal]

Underdogs >> Thuli Masingata >> Details
Player Info
16y0w | 26,189 rating | $ 948 wage (5% discount)

Right hand batsman | Right arm Fast medium

Talents Finisher
Nationality Zimbabwe Zimbabwe
Form reasonable
Fatigue rested
Experience poor
Captaincy capable
Skills Summary
Batsman ordinary
Bowler ordinary
Keeper average
Allrounder ordinary
Skills
Batting ordinary Endurance poor
Bowling ordinary Technique average
Keeping reasonable Power ordinary
Fielding ordinary

[casperj]

Underdogs >> Thuli Masingata >> Details
Player Info
16y0w | 26,189 rating | $ 948 wage (5% discount)

Right hand batsman | Right arm Fast medium

Talents Finisher
Nationality Zimbabwe Zimbabwe

Skills
Batting ordinary Endurance poor
Bowling ordinary Technique average
Keeping reasonable Power ordinary
Fielding ordinary

Great player. Finisher is a useful skill for a keeper. Would be going Keeper-bat training for him.

[Eepan]

So I am getting training plans sorted for my Youths, and have two questions:

1) I see the trend is to train Fielding early to a certain level, then work on Primary. Why is this?

2) Is it worth doing any Fitness/Strength training before the mid-20s?

Appreciate the advice. Thanks!

Hi!

1) because the cliche "catches win matches" is true in real life cricket (see England v Pakistan irl 4th T20) and FTP

It's easier to sort fielding out by 17 years old, then focus elsewhere

People want to play prospects as soon as possible,

New players should probably set fielding standards at average or reasonable, then when pushing to div 2 or 1, capable or reliable

2) I'd only recommend if you have a expensive academy (Lavish +) and are ahead in all other skills

For newer players no, as generally you don't want to fight against the game, you'll have a better player if you focus on power / fitness in their mid 20s

[boscorp]

So I am getting training plans sorted for my Youths, and have two questions:

1) I see the trend is to train Fielding early to a certain level, then work on Primary. Why is this?

2) Is it worth doing any Fitness/Strength training before the mid-20s?

Appreciate the advice. Thanks!

Hi!

1) because the cliche "catches win matches" is true in real life cricket (see England v Pakistan irl 4th T20) and FTP

It's easier to sort fielding out by 17 years old, then focus elsewhere

People want to play prospects as soon as possible,

New players should probably set fielding standards at average or reasonable, then when pushing to div 2 or 1, capable or reliable

2) I'd only recommend if you have a expensive academy (Lavish +) and are ahead in all other skills

For newer players no, as generally you don't want to fight against the game, you'll have a better player if you focus on power / fitness in their mid 20s

I think by training fielding first there is also savings to be made in wages over the seasons compared to if you train up a primary first.

[Eepan]

So I am getting training plans sorted for my Youths, and have two questions:

1) I see the trend is to train Fielding early to a certain level, then work on Primary. Why is this?

2) Is it worth doing any Fitness/Strength training before the mid-20s?

Appreciate the advice. Thanks!

Hi!

1) because the cliche "catches win matches" is true in real life cricket (see England v Pakistan irl 4th T20) and FTP

It's easier to sort fielding out by 17 years old, then focus elsewhere

People want to play prospects as soon as possible,

New players should probably set fielding standards at average or reasonable, then when pushing to div 2 or 1, capable or reliable

2) I'd only recommend if you have a expensive academy (Lavish +) and are ahead in all other skills

For newer players no, as generally you don't want to fight against the game, you'll have a better player if you focus on power / fitness in their mid 20s

I think by training fielding first there is also savings to be made in wages over the seasons compared to if you train up a primary first.

That too! Helps newer teams

[Jujoh]

A reason to train strength early is if you have a player you know will be replaced/worthless before he is older. Someone you have for a season or two to get you going. Might as well get the most out of those players. Even then the gains of training strength could be smaller than the gains of other training programmes, but if power is at a really low level it could be the best way to increase performance quickly

[boscorp]

So I am getting training plans sorted for my Youths, and have two questions:

1) I see the trend is to train Fielding early to a certain level, then work on Primary. Why is this?

2) Is it worth doing any Fitness/Strength training before the mid-20s?

Appreciate the advice. Thanks!

1) Fielding plays a pretty big role role in the game and its a good idea to have some sort of minimum standard for your starting eleven based on the division your in. Another reason is that fielding has the least impact on wages.
A reasonable exception to this is when you have a player gifted in keeping, bowling or batting. In that case you are better off training that primary first as a gifted player trains that skill at a faster rate.
All 16yo train 20% faster than a 19yo. A 18yo 10% faster than a 19yo. And that is on top of any bonus to training for being gifted. So with that in mind its probably best to train the gifted primary up first for a couple of seasons before switching to fielding training.

2) Endurance trains at the same pace thru to 30yo before it slows down. Most training options include endurance training so its not normally necessary for youth.
Training power isn't very effective while they are youth. They get the best result training power from the age of 23 thru to 27.
A 16 yo only trains power at 50%. Its 80% by 19 and gradually improves til they are 23.
I hope that isn't too confusing and gives you something to think about.

[Greg1525]

How should I train this player from now on? He just popped on Fielding two weeks ago and now just popped on Keeping.

21y5w | 54,088 rating | $8,723 wage (0% discount)

Right hand batsman | Right arm Wrist spin

Talents Prodigy
Nationality New Zealand
Form reliable
Fatigue rested
Experience accomplished
Captaincy poor

Skills Summary
Batsman outstanding
Bowler ordinary
Keeper spectacular
Allrounder ordinary

Batting outstanding Endurance reliable
Bowling poor Technique outstanding
Keeping exceptional Power ordinary
Fielding expert

[GM-crowfan65]

i would give him 2 field pops than go to batting for a little while