The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by GM-crowfan65 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:29 pm

Without a trng talent I would be making him a bowler who can bat a bit avg/reas
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by Tdk1023 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:32 pm

darkmatter wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:17 pm


Shame about the waste in keeping, he's a pretty good player. Nice experience and not bad captaincy as well, just good overall.

Personally I'd be pushing that fielding up to capable and then going bowler all out until 19ish and reassess. I know he lacks the direct talent, but gifted power will mean you can probably spend a bit longer on bowling, which will help in the long run.

He also is a bit short on spares (1810 if I counted correctly?) and the skill summary doesn't really tell you too much, but the wage may suggest a lowish reasonable, probably best to go all in.

I should AR is certainly viable, and if you don't like mediums bowlers without some form of active talent, then AR training after capable bowling until 19ish wouldn't hurt, a few batting pops is hardly a bad thing.

As with all my comments, I would recommend waiting for a second opinion :lol:
Thanks! It's pretty much what I thought. Think he probably has a bit of SR in batting, so may go for a bit of AR training after fielding.
Should be a solid #8.
Got a deluxe academy so hopefully he can turn into a decent medium pacer.
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by darkmatter » Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:45 pm

Tdk1023 wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:32 pm
darkmatter wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:17 pm


Shame about the waste in keeping, he's a pretty good player. Nice experience and not bad captaincy as well, just good overall.

Personally I'd be pushing that fielding up to capable and then going bowler all out until 19ish and reassess. I know he lacks the direct talent, but gifted power will mean you can probably spend a bit longer on bowling, which will help in the long run.

He also is a bit short on spares (1810 if I counted correctly?) and the skill summary doesn't really tell you too much, but the wage may suggest a lowish reasonable, probably best to go all in.

I should AR is certainly viable, and if you don't like mediums bowlers without some form of active talent, then AR training after capable bowling until 19ish wouldn't hurt, a few batting pops is hardly a bad thing.

As with all my comments, I would recommend waiting for a second opinion :lol:
Thanks! It's pretty much what I thought. Think he probably has a bit of SR in batting, so may go for a bit of AR training after fielding.
Should be a solid #8.
Got a deluxe academy so hopefully he can turn into a decent medium pacer.
In a deluxe regardless of country he's gonna have a good chance of making youth nats with those starting stats, and probably gives you more justification for a couple of AR pops. Congrats again!
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by GM-crowfan65 » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:21 am

Its more so he can at least field when he starts playing in games
Its just the way many of us train players but if you went to reas first then primaries and topping up fielding after every second pop that is also a known way to train
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by dhoni007 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:38 am

Scotland Youth >> Henk Wisgerhof >> Details
Player Info

16y0w | 24,863 rating | $1,078 wage (5% discount)

Right hand batsman | Right arm Medium
Talents Natural Leader, Gifted (Technique)
Nationality Netherlands Netherlands
Form reasonable
Fatigue rested
Experience poor
Captaincy reasonable
Skills Summary
Batsman poor
Bowler ordinary
Keeper poor
Allrounder ordinary

Notes
Skills
Batting ordinary Endurance average
Bowling reasonable Technique poor
Keeping poor Power ordinary
Fielding ordinary

Hi all, is he a Nat material? What should be the training regime?
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by TM-Cyrus » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:18 am

dhoni007 wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:38 am
Scotland Youth >> Henk Wisgerhof >> Details
Player Info

16y0w | 24,863 rating | $1,078 wage (5% discount)

Right hand batsman | Right arm Medium
Talents Natural Leader, Gifted (Technique)
Nationality Netherlands Netherlands
Form reasonable
Fatigue rested
Experience poor
Captaincy reasonable
Skills Summary
Batsman poor
Bowler ordinary
Keeper poor
Allrounder ordinary

Notes
Skills
Batting ordinary Endurance average
Bowling reasonable Technique poor
Keeping poor Power ordinary
Fielding ordinary

Hi all, is he a Nat material? What should be the training regime?
Also posted in the other thread for you
fielding to cap/reliable depending on spares and how quick he pops then bowl tech till the gap closes which it should easily with that gifted tech then bowling/bowl tech til he’s in his 20’s then depending on if you are keeping or selling back to fielding til at least outs then back to bowling and tech.
And captain where possible to go with that Nat leader
Hope that helps
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by TM-Cyrus » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:22 am

jv22 wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:24 am
In the post above darkmatter recommends training fielding first (up to capable) and then moving to primary.

Is there an advantage, in training fielding when a player is 16 rather than a primary and then alternating training as the player develops and ages (still reaching capable fielding by the time he turns 19)?

Hope the question makes sense!

jv
Biggest advantage is it’s quick, depending on your academy it should only take 4-5 weeks a pop and you also get residual tech and endo.
So by 17 you should have him a cap/reliable field
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by TM-Cyrus » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:37 am

I was more referring to the last one or two pops to cap or reliable but first should only be 3-4 weeks
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by Tdk1023 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:39 pm

dhoni007 wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:38 am
Scotland Youth >> Henk Wisgerhof >> Details
Player Info

16y0w | 24,863 rating | $1,078 wage (5% discount)

Right hand batsman | Right arm Medium
Talents Natural Leader, Gifted (Technique)
Nationality Netherlands Netherlands
Form reasonable
Fatigue rested
Experience poor
Captaincy reasonable
Skills Summary
Batsman poor
Bowler ordinary
Keeper poor
Allrounder ordinary

Notes
Skills
Batting ordinary Endurance average
Bowling reasonable Technique poor
Keeping poor Power ordinary
Fielding ordinary

Hi all, is he a Nat material? What should be the training regime?
He should definitely be in the mix for the U20s I imagine.
What's your YA like?
In terms of training, it's pretty simple in the short term. Fielding until capable, then bowling technique until it's caught up.
At that point, you can either continue to work on his primaries (advisable if he's likely to play for the U20s) or you could work on his fielding again to get that sorted sooner rather than later.
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by dhoni007 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:35 pm

Tdk1023 wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:39 pm
dhoni007 wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:38 am
Scotland Youth >> Henk Wisgerhof >> Details
Player Info

16y0w | 24,863 rating | $1,078 wage (5% discount)

Right hand batsman | Right arm Medium
Talents Natural Leader, Gifted (Technique)
Nationality Netherlands Netherlands
Form reasonable
Fatigue rested
Experience poor
Captaincy reasonable
Skills Summary
Batsman poor
Bowler ordinary
Keeper poor
Allrounder ordinary

Notes
Skills
Batting ordinary Endurance average
Bowling reasonable Technique poor
Keeping poor Power ordinary
Fielding ordinary

Hi all, is he a Nat material? What should be the training regime?
He should definitely be in the mix for the U20s I imagine.
What's your YA like?
In terms of training, it's pretty simple in the short term. Fielding until capable, then bowling technique until it's caught up.
At that point, you can either continue to work on his primaries (advisable if he's likely to play for the U20s) or you could work on his fielding again to get that sorted sooner rather than later.
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by Brunel37 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:32 pm

Raqib Omar Bangladesh
16 years 0 weeks old | 22,197 rating | $934 wage | Right hand batsman | Right arm Finger spin | Slower Ball, Skilled (Technique)

dreadful experience | reasonable form | rested fatigue | average captaincy

Endurance poor
Batting poor
Bowling reasonable
Technique poor
Power reasonable
Keeping poor
Fielding poor

Going to train this guy to capable fielding and then work on bowling tech/bowling. With a lavish academy what level do we think he might reach when he leaves the youth squad and turns 21?

Is there any other way I should be training him?
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by darkmatter » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:21 pm

Brunel37 wrote:
Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:32 pm
Raqib Omar Bangladesh
16 years 0 weeks old | 22,197 rating | $934 wage | Right hand batsman | Right arm Finger spin | Slower Ball, Skilled (Technique)

dreadful experience | reasonable form | rested fatigue | average captaincy

Endurance poor
Batting poor
Bowling reasonable
Technique poor
Power reasonable
Keeping poor
Fielding poor

Going to train this guy to capable fielding and then work on bowling tech/bowling. With a lavish academy what level do we think he might reach when he leaves the youth squad and turns 21?

Is there any other way I should be training him?
I'm not good at predicting levels, but that sounds like a good training plan; with that gap I suspect it will mainly be bowling tech though.

Personally when you hit 19 and 20 I'd be tempted to pop his fielding to reliable and then accomplished, but if you are only keeping for youths, your plan would likely generate you more money at sale.
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