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rogue
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Re: NT Team Thread

Post by rogue » Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:54 am

flavaofvlav wrote:i think south park is for cretinous morons.

and that was basically aimed at all the recent posts, except baggy, since i have him blocked & really CBF reading his pile of dross.

and yes it's only a game but if you cant do something so simple right and give it the little bit of time and attention you promised you could then don't do it at all.... learn that and you will go a long way in all of life's little adventures.
I've read quite a few of your posts, flav, and it amuses me to see your opinions on dross and cretinous morons. On that subject I value your insight.


Picton, I know you have been bleeding red, white and blue for several seasons, so I know you are probably extremely disappointed by this turn of events. I would like to thank you for your contributions and I'm confident you can bounce back. I myself have been extremely busy with life and have seen it detract from my onfield performance in ftp. Last week I set my best batsman to bowl 10 overs and I lost the match by 4 runs. Easily done.

Finally, I would like to nominate BG as the next manager. That way he can pick all the 20yo players from his tenure as u19 manager... :thumbsup :whistle
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Re: NT Team Thread

Post by darkmatter » Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:15 am

flavaofvlav wrote:i think south park is for cretinous morons.

and that was basically aimed at all the recent posts, except baggy, since i have him blocked & really CBF reading his pile of dross.

and yes it's only a game but if you cant do something so simple right and give it the little bit of time and attention you promised you could then don't do it at all.... learn that and you will go a long way in all of life's little adventures.
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Re: NT Team Thread

Post by cleanprophet » Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:15 pm

Cuivienen wrote:Real life happens. People get too worked up about not setting a line up.
I don't think anyone can blame someone for prioritising real life. The thing is, it's down to the manager to make sure he has fully active assistants so that there is a failsafe in place (especially if he knows he has plenty going on in real life). In this instance, it's not only the manager who failed - it was the whole management team.

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Re: NT Team Thread

Post by darkmatter » Sat Aug 13, 2011 1:26 am

CP, without knowing the inner workings that's hardly a fair assessment. Picton made it very clear that for competitive games he wanted 100% control over the games and squad, and although he did ask me on occasion for selection queries, I wasn't going to go against his wishes so I never even checked the competitive games.

In the 3 or so friendly games I was allowed to control (before Ippy was given the jurisdiction) - we played pretty competitive games.


Anyway, that's not why I'm here. As a reward for given hundreds of brown paper bags over the years, I've been elected as stand-in until the next election. I am quite a safe manager and actually prefer to use older players, so expect quite a shuffle of the squad, however I do want a manager who is willing to watch the younger players progress from time to time.


I have two free slots in the team and am more than happy to hear from anyone. So message me in game.

Also, since I wasn't elected in, I expect community rule. If anyone is against a more conservative tactic, please tell me. I don't bite haha.

Cheers all
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Re: NT Team Thread

Post by darkmatter » Sat Aug 13, 2011 1:40 am

Smiddie wrote:RL shouldnt be used as an excuse, you can set basic orders for a match and if you don't make it on thats why you have your 3 assistants to set some orders and if they failed to do so, at least some basic default orders have been set, seeing my batsmen play down the order as a keeper chasing a massive total was totally Crud and didnt enjoy that at all, thats how people lose interest in the nat scene, i suggest USA get there act together ASAP cause that was a total joke seeing a game like that.
I feel slightly saddened at the fact that you cannot see Real Life as an excuse.

If you read my last post, Picton maintained full control over competitive games and I for one respected that decision. Conversely, any assistants I take are more than free to set orders, and indeed may request games to control as well.

Picton has done a good job, but real life is more important, and thus he has quit the role I'm pretty active, and I'm sure with my more conservative approach we'll be a bit more competitive. I've never forgotten to set orders for my own games, and as nat manager, I'll just add it to my daily list of chores for FTP :lol:
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Re: NT Team Thread

Post by darkmatter » Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:11 am

Dylan wrote:Having an assistant in a different timezone whose explicity given the task of sanity checking orders might not be a bad idea.
If you are proposing yourself Dylan, I'd love to have you on board.

Otherwise I guess I can post in the main discussions to find them. However, don't forget I am technically in the UK timezone and yet it's 3am here (the power of insomnia!)

I doubt we'll have the problem of missing orders, to be honest, but it doesn't hurt.

I've asked Ippy to control the T20 tour, by the way. Have to wait to here if he wants to, or indeed to see that he wants to be an assistant under me...
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Re: NT Team Thread

Post by darkmatter » Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:39 am

Baggygreen wrote:Of course RL takes priority over an online cricket game, but I don't think that is what anyone is questioning.

Firstly a level of commitment is required by anyone who takes on a Nat role, if they are aware that RL commitments might interfere with their ability to do this, then they should not undertake the role.

Secondly, whether the manager asks for it or not, one of the assistants basic duties (IMO) is to ensure that orders/squads/bids etc. etc. are submitted by the deadlines. That way 3 or 4 people are making sure this is done- not just one. I have only been with the Pak nat team for a week, and whilst I haven't been officially asked to set any orders yet, twice in this weeks tour I have noticed we have been within 4 hous of a game without any orders being set so I have put them in. So whilst this didn't stop the manager changing anything he wanted to, at least in a worse case scenario if he had been unavailable, orders were in.

Anyway, I think that is what most here are commenting on - we failed on a number of fronts. Not just that somebody forgot.

Good luck in your shortened term anyway, I agree with your new approach, as I have mentioned a number of times, I only support a full on youth policy for U19s and not seniors as there is too long a time period and too many variables involved to make it a vaible proposition (IMO) for seniors. :thumbsup

Without digging Picton's grave even bigger, I actually asked whether I could set orders, and it took a number of requests to even get about 3 friendlies.

Needless to say, I have a fair bit of time to set up orders and such, plus I'm too casual and will let all managers have free reign on orders that have not been set up! So I should hope this won't happen under this short time period.

Anyway, since I've only got 2 tours and a WC, I'm going to try and get the best possible result in this WC. I think the seniors should aim for the best results every season, and every tour for that matter.

I sacrifice occasional senior games to give my stars experience, and I expect the top nat players to get the same respect from their clubs, or chances are they won't be picked anyway!
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Re: NT Team Thread

Post by heppa » Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:41 am

Don't worry about it picton. Only a few teams actually care about tours anyway. I doubt even a quarter of the people critising you are apart of a NT team that puts in a touring squad good enough to win, so they can't really talk. It amuses me how teams tour a whole squad of 20yos, lose every game and still be satisfied at the end. Forgetting orders is hardly anything to worry about when no one wants to win anyway.

I have no idea what smiddie is taking. RL is a damn well good excuse for not setting the orders for a game. It happens. Big deal. Don't listen to the know it alls who want you crucified for it.

Sorry for storming in on another nations thread, but piction has copped enough Crud over the season and in particular this week. Good on ya for taking the initiative to stand down. Good luck in the future :thumbsup
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