Zimbabwe Senior National Discussion

[YorkshirePudding]

I see the last post was from January and it is now August.

I was rather surprised to see my club number 10 with average batting and a capable summary (One Day batting average of 6), got promoted to number 7 internationally.

Are there no Zimbabwean allrounders worth playing at national level? I know most of them used to be mine (Nicklin & Jennings above) but are there no others coming through?

[Chepu]

Well at least the current management is selecting squad and doing orders unlike previous management. Funny to see someone from that management raise questions. Looks like people conveniently forget when they are involved or think they have gone unnoticed and no one would remember who was a part of the management and who wasn't.

Edit- Top Manager- this is for the previous management in which you were not involved

[Chepu]

1) What skills or attributes contributed to them selecting a 24-year-old batsman (Rick Fidock) in the touring squad? Does the management team believe secondaries are relevant?

Sorry I am not involved in Zimbabwe and this reply is not because Fidock is my player- But here is my response for this question-

If Fidock was in Kenya he would have walked into best xi last season itself. And there are a number of teams touring young players with low secondaries (or at least did last season). If you lack in some parameter I would definitely want someone with high primaries and low secondaries who is 24 or 25 or 26 than have a 29 yo with lower primaries and better secondaries and then look into filling that gap again in 1 or 2 season when that guy plops with another stop gap average player.

Of course having said that I would have expected a message from management asking me to work on his secondaries as he is still on primaries training which I have not received but let us not criticize someone for the sake of it or because you would have done things differently. Everyone has different thoughts for how they want to proceed and if they have been voted in, let them work with their plan. Works- Great, Doesn't work- they get shown the door next time.

As for his skills- WC keeping, batting excep (last pop in feb so should be close to WC), tech- excep (last pop in May).

The other 2 questions are good but don't think you will recieve a reply by posting here as I don;t think any of them are active on forums. Try messaging them if you need a response.

[Chepu]

1) What skills or attributes contributed to them selecting a 24-year-old batsman (Rick Fidock) in the touring squad? Does the management team believe secondaries are relevant?

Sorry I am not involved in Zimbabwe and this reply is not because Fidock is my player- But here is my response for this question-

If Fidock was in Kenya he would have walked into best xi last season itself. And there are a number of teams touring young players with low secondaries (or at least did last season). If you lack in some parameter I would definitely want someone with high primaries and low secondaries who is 24 or 25 or 26 than have a 29 yo with lower primaries and better secondaries and then look into filling that gap again in 1 or 2 season when that guy plops with another stop gap average player.

Of course having said that I would have expected a message from management asking me to work on his secondaries as he is still on primaries training which I have not received but let us not criticize someone for the sake of it or because you would have done things differently. Everyone has different thoughts for how they want to proceed and if they have been voted in, let them work with their plan. Works- Great, Doesn't work- they get shown the door next time.

As for his skills- WC keeping, batting excep (last pop in feb so should be close to WC), tech- excep (last pop in May).

The other 2 questions are good but don't think you will recieve a reply by posting here as I don;t think any of them are active on forums. Try messaging them if you need a response.

I sent Helen an IGM immediately after I posted my questions. One of the good things that have happened in recent seasons has been the explicit expectation that national managers attempt to promote community engagement, so I hope Helen finds the time to answer my questions on the forums for everyone to see.

With regards to Fidock, it's all relative at the end of the day. I haven't got access to the Zimbabwe squad, but I do think it's fair to ask the thinking behind Fidock's suggestion, especially given Zimbabwe have lost all 3 games.

and why would you want to know the thinking behind a player's selection just on the basis of his age when you don't even know his skills? Could have been possible that he had good secondaries. why can't a young player be good enough to play NATs? I have toured quite a few 25 and 26 year olds with low secondaries last 3 seasons and they have all done the job as well as I would have liked. In fact 2 bowlers with expert endurance and expert experience have taken 8 wickets in 2 games so far this week for me. Like I said- everyone has their own though process and if the community has given them a chance then let them do it. If everyone did the same thing then we wouldn't need elections.


And yeah a NAT manager needs to be more involved with community and it is a part of the Code of Conduct too so let us hope she starts posting on forums.

[Chepu]

SL did go with a 25 yo keeper last season. Yes the guy must not have been ready but they probably thought he was worth investing in and rightly so (and hopefully you guys haven't discarded him this season after investing in him). Like I said, with the keepers at Kenya, Fidock would have walked into our xi 1 season ago and he was only 23 then.

Yes, it is fair to ask questions and hopefully you get the answers