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Time to revisit the idea of a youth cup competition? With the finance changes coming at the end of this season (S51), a youth cup would go some way towards adding balance to the game.
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We will see what happens with competitiveness in youths in the next season or so but you are probably right
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A few things that have been mentioned numerous times but not on the original post so I thought I would ask.
First class
Youth cup
Champions cup (div 1 champions all go against each other at EOS)
Additional nations being added
Additional staff such as coaches or ground staff
Just wanted to get a feel for these things because I know that they are all things that you want to add into the game but wasn't sure if they were in the "it's a great idea but probably not any time soon" category, or if they are in the "our team are actively working behind the scenes to bring this into the game" category.
I know you guys do a lot of hard work and I'm excited to see what happens next season with the new changes.
First class
Youth cup
Champions cup (div 1 champions all go against each other at EOS)
Additional nations being added
Additional staff such as coaches or ground staff
Just wanted to get a feel for these things because I know that they are all things that you want to add into the game but wasn't sure if they were in the "it's a great idea but probably not any time soon" category, or if they are in the "our team are actively working behind the scenes to bring this into the game" category.
I know you guys do a lot of hard work and I'm excited to see what happens next season with the new changes.
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targetting some bigger things at the moment, obv finances this EOS
And Fielding etc plus some other ME things for next season
If we get some time in between we will look at the more simpler things but if not it will be Ssn 53 for them and others
And Fielding etc plus some other ME things for next season
If we get some time in between we will look at the more simpler things but if not it will be Ssn 53 for them and others
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I wouldn't see it as making it more like other games.Klauts wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:54 amI see first class is raised again, but again these concepts are used in poor cousins of FTP, why are we looking to make a great product like a lesser light?Madcarrot wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 1:49 pmA few things that have been mentioned numerous times but not on the original post so I thought I would ask.
First class
Youth cup
Champions cup (div 1 champions all go against each other at EOS)
Additional nations being added
Additional staff such as coaches or ground staff
Just wanted to get a feel for these things because I know that they are all things that you want to add into the game but wasn't sure if they were in the "it's a great idea but probably not any time soon" category, or if they are in the "our team are actively working behind the scenes to bring this into the game" category.
I know you guys do a lot of hard work and I'm excited to see what happens next season with the new changes.
Tbh there is a reason this game is leaps ahead , and would be a brave decision to make it more like (IMO) failing ventures .
This is a cricket game and as Test Cricket is the highest and purest form of cricket I think incorporating it into FTP is a natural progression for the game. If it is able to be brought in and done well then I don't think we are imitating other games. But that's just my humble opinion.
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Doing it right is the key, we have a way we want it to work and can be an opt out if you wish or maybe an opt in is a better way to put it.
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Always been a fan of the youth cup idea.
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Any timeline for piloting certain ideas, such as a youth cup?
As my clubs are youth-focused, I'd love to see the youth cup. One bummer is that prize money is not great for youth teams. A youth cup would presumably add prize money, though granted it's only fair that it youth cup prize dollars should be lower than MKMC prizes.
Adding new nations is tricky. In principle, I love the idea, as cricket is a world game and nations like Nepal have made huge progress in RL cricket and can beat some of FTP's existing nations on their day. But the balance of NAT competitions is already tenuous. For example when Australia or England play many other nations, the sheer size of the player pool is 2x. Adding more nations without somehow drawing more people to join and actively play FTP would further dilute this. Do we think adding more nations would help attract more folks to FTP?
Maybe we should be brainstorming marketing tactics to boost FTP's player base? I'd be curious to see a table of the game's user numbers over time, and compare any past efforts to market or publicize the game.
As my clubs are youth-focused, I'd love to see the youth cup. One bummer is that prize money is not great for youth teams. A youth cup would presumably add prize money, though granted it's only fair that it youth cup prize dollars should be lower than MKMC prizes.
Adding new nations is tricky. In principle, I love the idea, as cricket is a world game and nations like Nepal have made huge progress in RL cricket and can beat some of FTP's existing nations on their day. But the balance of NAT competitions is already tenuous. For example when Australia or England play many other nations, the sheer size of the player pool is 2x. Adding more nations without somehow drawing more people to join and actively play FTP would further dilute this. Do we think adding more nations would help attract more folks to FTP?
Maybe we should be brainstorming marketing tactics to boost FTP's player base? I'd be curious to see a table of the game's user numbers over time, and compare any past efforts to market or publicize the game.
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If there is a youth cup I would like to see it a bit different to the MKMC.
Perhaps a national qualifier, so every country has a knockout cup and then after a certain round they all merge together or something like that.
Not because anything is wrong with the MKMC format, just to make it a bit different.
Perhaps a national qualifier, so every country has a knockout cup and then after a certain round they all merge together or something like that.
Not because anything is wrong with the MKMC format, just to make it a bit different.
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I am pro Youth Cup and anti First Class (unless it can be played in a day)
Came here to ask if weekly rating improvement could be shown alongside total rating.
With four teams it's impossible to track oneself and would be illuminating.
Came here to ask if weekly rating improvement could be shown alongside total rating.
With four teams it's impossible to track oneself and would be illuminating.
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Hi
This suggestion is for Rules page..
While reading out the entire rules.. found out that Youth Team related stuff like match takings and something like are in small font size..Though Youth matches are slightly in lesser light for supporters..but for many that would pressure the eyes while reading. Pls do the needful..
This suggestion is for Rules page..
While reading out the entire rules.. found out that Youth Team related stuff like match takings and something like are in small font size..Though Youth matches are slightly in lesser light for supporters..but for many that would pressure the eyes while reading. Pls do the needful..
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Any chance there can be a dark screen option? The white background can be very bright and harsh on the eyes when used on a phone or device in a dark room. A black background would be ideal 

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Just thinking about the 2nd cup competition. Given that the MKMC takes up 11 weeks of a 15 week season not really possible to fit in another senior cup unless it only had 4/5 rounds. So any second cup would have to be a youth cup. Presumably played saturdays,
Ssuggestion 1): Nation Youth Cup
As there are now 120 teams in each national league system, how about a 7-week knock out cup within each league system (e.g. an Aus youth cup, an Eng Youth cup etc). Given the nbr of sides in each nation the first round would be 112 teams (producing 56 winners) + 8 highest ranked teams getting a bye to the second round (of 64). If the MKMC were moved forward a week to run weeks 0-10. this youth cup could run weeks 8 - 14. There would only be 3 weeks of overlap and as that would be when the MKMC were down to the last 8, it would only effect 8 teams. Presumably they wouldn't be playing youths that late into the MKMC, so should be OK (an alternative would maybe be to prioritise those 8 teams in the selection of teams that get a first round bye, meaning the overlap is really only for 2 weeks effecting 4 teams.
Suggestion 2): Division youth cup
The problem with 1 is it loses the element of playing teams from different countries which the MKMC has. An Alternative would be to have 8 rounds in the youth cup and split the cups by league number, rather than nation. So all the youth teams in Div 1 across all 20 nations would play in one cup, all the ones in 2.1 would play in another cup and so on, so there'd be one cup for each division. As there are 20 nations this would be 160 teams per cup, so you'd have to have an extra round compared to Suggstion 1 - although the majority of teams would get a bye to round 2 (96 byes, remaing 64 teams play, leaving 96+32=128 for the second round). Might have to be careful about the prize money/ attendance levels to avoid making it beneficial to stay in a lower league this giving yourself a chance of winning an 'easier' cup. Advantage of this is it potentially gives weaker/newer teams a chance for some cup glory!!
Suggestion 3) Paired nation 'challenge' cup
Same as 1) but each season you'd pair nations together for the purposes of this cup competition, with the pairing rotating each season. This would mean you'd have two nations together, so you'd have 240 youth teams in each cup, so you'd again need an extra (8th) round vs Suggestion 1. Pairing would rotate so say, Aus got paired with Eng one season, then with India the next, then SA the next etc. There'd be 10 pairing each season so every nation gets a cup to participate in against another nation.
Ssuggestion 1): Nation Youth Cup
As there are now 120 teams in each national league system, how about a 7-week knock out cup within each league system (e.g. an Aus youth cup, an Eng Youth cup etc). Given the nbr of sides in each nation the first round would be 112 teams (producing 56 winners) + 8 highest ranked teams getting a bye to the second round (of 64). If the MKMC were moved forward a week to run weeks 0-10. this youth cup could run weeks 8 - 14. There would only be 3 weeks of overlap and as that would be when the MKMC were down to the last 8, it would only effect 8 teams. Presumably they wouldn't be playing youths that late into the MKMC, so should be OK (an alternative would maybe be to prioritise those 8 teams in the selection of teams that get a first round bye, meaning the overlap is really only for 2 weeks effecting 4 teams.
Suggestion 2): Division youth cup
The problem with 1 is it loses the element of playing teams from different countries which the MKMC has. An Alternative would be to have 8 rounds in the youth cup and split the cups by league number, rather than nation. So all the youth teams in Div 1 across all 20 nations would play in one cup, all the ones in 2.1 would play in another cup and so on, so there'd be one cup for each division. As there are 20 nations this would be 160 teams per cup, so you'd have to have an extra round compared to Suggstion 1 - although the majority of teams would get a bye to round 2 (96 byes, remaing 64 teams play, leaving 96+32=128 for the second round). Might have to be careful about the prize money/ attendance levels to avoid making it beneficial to stay in a lower league this giving yourself a chance of winning an 'easier' cup. Advantage of this is it potentially gives weaker/newer teams a chance for some cup glory!!
Suggestion 3) Paired nation 'challenge' cup
Same as 1) but each season you'd pair nations together for the purposes of this cup competition, with the pairing rotating each season. This would mean you'd have two nations together, so you'd have 240 youth teams in each cup, so you'd again need an extra (8th) round vs Suggestion 1. Pairing would rotate so say, Aus got paired with Eng one season, then with India the next, then SA the next etc. There'd be 10 pairing each season so every nation gets a cup to participate in against another nation.