New Senior Nats

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Re: New Senior Nats

Post by allflattious » Tue Nov 11, 2025 4:32 pm

Bit confused as to how bidding would work in this case?

One teams bids for the whole tour? I.e every team plays in one nation? Or separate bidding for the three sets of games still?

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Re: New Senior Nats

Post by Basto111 » Tue Nov 11, 2025 5:41 pm

Id be keen to see this given a go!

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Re: New Senior Nats

Post by GM-crowfan65 » Tue Nov 11, 2025 11:33 pm

allflattious wrote:
Tue Nov 11, 2025 4:32 pm
Bit confused as to how bidding would work in this case?

One teams bids for the whole tour? I.e every team plays in one nation? Or separate bidding for the three sets of games still?
No bidding

Currently the three tours for youths run at 0 5 and 10, Seniors will get about 2 hrs later than that.
In the 6 game tours you get 3 home matches on 1 pitch that you select then 3 away games on pitches selected by the other teams
Pitches are known at selection
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Re: New Senior Nats

Post by DEVI » Wed Nov 12, 2025 4:28 am

How about when we keep weekly 3 matches with 1 day break inbetween. So 6 matches run for 2 weeks. So it makes real and fatigue management will be easier .

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Post by MrMoose » Wed Nov 12, 2025 4:39 am

Two weeks of 3 days would only work if players were available for club SOD and cup games. Missing t20 and SOD for two weeks in a row would be too disruptive to clubs in my opinion.
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Re: New Senior Nats

Post by Madcarrot » Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:29 am

I don't fully understand why you wouldn't just keep it as is with 18 man squads until Nepal and Afghanistan age up.

But if it's going to make it easier for the development team then I'm happy with whatever.

If it means more work for devs for something only temporary, then I would prefer to focus on other things such as changing technique etc.
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Re: New Senior Nats

Post by GM-crowfan65 » Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:56 am

cant split squad sizes so went with 10 for all

Allowing us to move to this as a solution until the new teams age up will help immensely
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Re: New Senior Nats

Post by WhiteShadow » Wed Nov 12, 2025 6:35 pm

How about having the same concept for both NT and U21 but in NT, instead of playing Nepal or Afganistan the team gets BYE...

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Re: New Senior Nats

Post by boscorp » Wed Nov 12, 2025 10:17 pm

WhiteShadow wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 6:35 pm
How about having the same concept for both NT and U21 but in NT, instead of playing Nepal or Afganistan the team gets BYE...
I liked the idea of a bye also but i'm pretty sure that would muck around a lot with fatigue management.
I think the proposal from crowfan should be passed on to the next stage of introduction for the purpose of moving forward.
It appears to be the best viable proposal without making other further changes. I don't see any obstacles to overcome in bringing it on.
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Re: New Senior Nats

Post by GM-crowfan65 » Thu Nov 13, 2025 12:32 am

Byes do give advantage to teams later in the week so not something we would be keen on
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Re: New Senior Nats

Post by MightyMasher » Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:47 am

all sounds good to me ....lets give it a try and find out !

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Re: New Senior Nats

Post by alsybaba » Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:05 pm

It's my last hurrah as Scottish/Nat boss for a while.

there is a thought it's a change for change sake - I'm more than happy with the current set up

Also happy and enthusiastic for a bit of a change - champions league style in football.

Whatever you decide my man I am happy with

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Re: New Senior Nats

Post by berksowl » Mon Nov 17, 2025 4:00 pm

Pro-rate squad size for these tours based on size of player pool for each nation. The larger nation's have an unearned advantage. Let's do some math:

Bermuda (smallest senior player pool of current senior NAT nations). If they pick a 20-man squad, that's 2.13% of their player pool.

If Bermuda could pick the top 2.13% of Australia's player pool (2,985 seniors), they could have a squad of 64 for each tour.

Fair is fair.

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Re: New Senior Nats

Post by Fgrenyu » Mon Nov 17, 2025 8:52 pm

berksowl wrote:
Mon Nov 17, 2025 4:00 pm
Pro-rate squad size for these tours based on size of player pool for each nation. The larger nation's have an unearned advantage. Let's do some math:

Bermuda (smallest senior player pool of current senior NAT nations). If they pick a 20-man squad, that's 2.13% of their player pool.

If Bermuda could pick the top 2.13% of Australia's player pool (2,985 seniors), they could have a squad of 64 for each tour.

Fair is fair.
Sounds good until you compare the 64th best Bermudian to the 20th best Australian :lol:

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Re: New Senior Nats

Post by Collywobbles » Wed Nov 19, 2025 12:34 pm

Only just seen this, but definitely feel it’ll favour the larger nations with bigger resources. We’re definitely struggling to find 20 players already at the right level. A league format seems to reduce the achievements we’ve made of making it to div 1 as a small nation. Survival in the top flight and allowing us to compete in the World Cup has been an amazing achievement. It’d be a shame to lose that in some sort of champions league format

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